I always read LJ. A lot of people are still here. Less, yes. It's what it was, but it's something and it takes folks writing here for it to ever move to the next step. One used to not be able to comment here on your posts, I thought, so I've not commented here in a while. I like what I read when it appears :-) I also like that I can comment here this time. Finicky user am I, I'd have to be super motivated to click somewhere else to comment. Ha. How spoiled and silly we are these days.
Yeah, I turned on comments here again partly because of the post itself, but partly because I've given up on anything like a unified comment thread. Nobody replies on the site itself, just here or on Facebook. Maybe it's just too late to do something on my own.
It's never too late, mate!
I too have given up on the unified comment thread. RIP.
I'm actually okay with it, because my friends can have our normally bawdy and silly discussion one place (on LJ), and my family and acquaintances can remain non-offended on my FB. Keeping the peace, of sorts. :p
Go where the day takes you.
If something is terribly wrong, it must be with me.
I still use LJ, and for the reasons you talk about. I couldn't transfer to Wordpress or Blogger or whatever, because of the lack of community. So here is an echoing chamber with a few people still reading and commenting, and I can't let it go. Facebook isn't this.
Oh yeah, Facebook isn't anyone's choice for conversation. I was just greedy enough to want all the conversation in one place (mine) and that was dumb.
2013-02-05 07:26 am (UTC)
I hate the fragmentation and the lack of content and conversation in social-media-of-now. I read you on LJ, but I never comment because it seems like you're one step removed, over on a blog, where ... well, I don't know you, but on LJ it feels more peer-to-peer rather than guest-in-your-domain. :-/
i hope you write every day.
I hear that about peer to peer vs. guest. I did that partly because I felt like a guest in LJ's house and I didn't know if the house was going to be there the next day. I guess I should leave comments open everywhere and forget about having things in one basket. Egotism fails.
2013-02-06 09:07 am (UTC)
I think your approach was fine, I just felt shy. I always worry about LJ disappearing into the hole. There's an OK archiving tool somewhere (ljarchive?) but it's not like having it all still online.
I too wish LJ or something like it would come back. But Facebook has usurped most people's social-connection energy, to the point where investing time in keeping up on other networks is a losing proposition, and spending time writing multiple paragraphs of prose in case one of the few radioactive mutants who still read LJ should stumble across it quadruply so.
I recently went back to posting things to LJ and Dreamwidth (same codebase but not run by oligarchs in Moscow), though to be honest, I'm not feeling much motivation, namely due to the fact that it feels a little too much like talking to myself.
Having said that, it doesn't look like many people read my blog either these days. I suspect the forwarding of links has moved entirely to Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr.
One thing LJ/DW could do that would make it more compelling would be to provide a Soundcloud-style “secret link” functionality, for sharing private posts to private access lists on other social networks.
I think you're wrong about LJ. Checking Alexa ratings ain't my thang ("blablablah.com captures 1.4 percent of the global Internet audience!") but my private take is that it's an underground phenomenon, rather like Deadheads once were and the whole BDSM thing is now. There's a strong readership.
Could you use it to leverage a professional media career? Not at this point. FB is better for self promotion.
But there's an increasingly strong interest in online "communities," and FB is not an online community. It's Venn diagram friendship circles, most of whom know each other in what's laughingly known as "real life."
I kept you on my flist even after months of activity because you wrote a few things way back that spoke to me. You don't know me. It's unlikely you will ever know me. And yet, our... penumbra if you will, rub shoulders. That's something.
I've always read LJ and whatever your crosspost from your blog. but I'm not much of a commenter in general.
I like LJ because I know I can filter posts and I trust the circle of people that are here with very personal things. FB makes things far too complicated to try and filter on a regular basis and there is always the fear that you forgot to filter and people will see something they shouldn't.
Also to your point, I feel no sense of community on FB. Mostly it is people posting picture crap about current topics (Obama, gun control, abortion, etc) and very little real discussion.
Echoing this person's comments. Also I never did find you on FB, so LJ remains my only connection to you. It is hard to venture out to a bunch of individual sites to read people who used to be in one place. I'm bad at following LJers' independent blogs.
I miss LJ. I never was able to get much past my phobic fear of writing more than comments, but I really enjoyed reading the more meaningful thoughts of people I think are awesome.
Facebook makes me mostly depressed and kinda sick to my stomach, and I never have gotten the hang of twitter.
If there's a next thing, I hope it's much more like here than out there.
I feel you. I randomly decided to look at LJ today, even though I haven't in ages. And not because of Facebook--I rarely look at that either, and it never fit the niche LJ did. Too many people drifted away from LJ though, and when I pop back over, it does have that late night radio shift feel, indeed. Just wanted to share my sympathy, as it is a real loss.
2013-02-05 07:35 pm (UTC)
totally didn't read this.
i was glad when you made the switch because i found the WP format a bit easier on the eyes and never really liked create a LJ account just to sass you. Hell, i can't even remember the password for my LJ account, hopefully they've nuked it cus i can use twitter now.
I think blogging just sort of dissipated into the ether and you may have had the same experience if you hadn't made the change.
PS you are the best there is at twitter. sorry.
PPS captchas make me want to set myself on fire
LJ's still very much strong and has the financial support to keep going for awhile (this is from an ex-staffer, by the way, which you know of course but others might not). The thing is that's killing everybody, is that your network from 2003 isn't going to be here anymore. But people are around on LJ, they're just in different communities. A lot of them on the US-side are in ONTD-based communities, some of which actually have decently media-cynical readership. ;)
I really really miss my network from 2003-2006ish. Luckily most of y'all I can catch on IRC or whatnot, even if you're not blogging. Everybody kind of shifted, sort of like how people move out of town after graduating college, and we're left with all these empty houses.
The people who comment on my LJ are either my really close friends, or people I've added to my friends list within the past 2 years. It is such an overwhelming effort to make a new network again that I haven't really been trying, but a lot of people still are, just in places we're not watching. That's how LJ is right now.
I like your writing. I like it lots, and sometimes I share it with my other friends. I hope wherever you go that you keep putting your writing out there, because you're damn good at it.
Edited at 2013-02-05 08:30 pm (UTC)
I haven't posted in f.o.r.e.v.e.r BUT I come to LJ everyday to read what little there is. I guess old (11+ year) habits die hard?
Hey, something is always terribly wrong.
idk i just reblog pictures of triangles to tumblr now that is my "social media experience"
i really like your writing though like a lot
Yeah, many of the same things here for me. I find it very hard to keep up with too many things at once, and thought (definitely foolishly) that I could find a way to mash everything one place. I miss my LJ - not enough of the people I know used wordpress when I was trying that out, and now yeah, many people are on FB where much usually light discussion goes on, but I am not really good at managing "friends" there. Brad has moved almost exclusively to g+ except when he remembers to head over and check out my stuff elsewhere.
I dunno. Maybe I'm just feeling more disconnected than usual right now, but I certainly miss a more robust experience.
Taking my meds has made me very nervous about writing too much and blathering. I'm not sure how good i'd be at FB anymore.
I want to read more of your stuff anywhere you decide to store it.
Edited at 2013-02-06 03:09 am (UTC)
I'm always happy to read you - you're one of my favorite people I've "met" on here, and I hope you do get back to writing more! Facebook is problematic for all the reasons identified upthread. I still check in here, and yeah it's a shadow of its former self, but I love the intimacy and semi-privacy of it, especially compared to FB. Now if I could only get myself to update more. Every time I read my old posts I'm so grateful to my younger self for doing that. And I'm going to be pissed at my current self for not! Anyway, just wanted to say HELLO SIR with the glayven and the thing...
You arent responsible for the demise of LJ so it wasnt really you who killed your blog. lj went wrong in someways but it was also inevitable, social networks, clubs have that finite lifespan.
Unfortunately nothing since has had its features. I really miss the odd but safe space to write things. Because of the filters & privacy control, I was able to be much more public than I ever had before.
I know that feel. About the only LJ friends I had were hold overs from the Efnet #perl, (remember the great bot wars '97?)
I don't do #perl anymore, though I do a lot of perl. And I'd rather stab myself in the nuts then use FB.
My LJ friend's page has devolved into an non-annoying RSS reader where I can follow xkcd and jwz's battles with technology.
Edited at 2013-02-08 01:59 am (UTC)