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Dear Vegans: [Jun. 13th, 2009|01:05 am]
The American Caliban
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We know you're vegan, and that you don't consume any animal products. That's difficult, and it's impressive that you put effort into a moral conviction.

However, please do not announce each time you eat food that it is vegan and delicious.

We know you enjoy your food, and that you choose to eat vegan food. That's great. However, it's a dog-bites-man story. It can be assumed that the food you eat conforms to your values.

If you should happen to eat a pound of steak or a stick of butter or an entire dachshund or a wheel of Double Gloucester Cheese, let us know; that would be news.

Otherwise it's kind of annoying in ways you could figure out with a moment's thought.

Best wishes,

The lesser breed without the Law
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[User Picture]From: caladri
2009-06-13 08:09 am (UTC)
I'm sure you knows this, but: there are circumstances in which such is appropriate, especially if it is in the form of good-natured ribbing of meat-eaters who mock the mock meat, etc.
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[User Picture]From: substitute
2009-06-13 08:11 am (UTC)
Agreed.
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[User Picture]From: wanderingaengus
2009-06-13 12:37 pm (UTC)
Should it be all right for them to say, "Man, this tofu dog tastes like crap!"?
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[User Picture]From: firepower
2009-06-13 01:08 pm (UTC)
LOL
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[User Picture]From: detcarguy
2009-06-14 10:56 pm (UTC)
I never understood why the compulsion to make vegan food look like a meat product? I don't make my hamburgers look like a lettuce leaf!
Maybe if vegan food didn't look like meat, there would be no need to remark about it?
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[User Picture]From: handstil
2009-06-13 01:42 pm (UTC)
Yes, this. I don't need to hear "I had the best vegan SALAD" ever again. I think it's appropriate when you are recommending something like "Casa De Luz" has excellent vegan options, etc or "Great vegan potstickers at ____" but that's about it. Oh, or sharing recipes, of course.
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[User Picture]From: leolo
2009-06-13 07:13 pm (UTC)
Vegan salad is suprisingly hard to come by in a restaurant. They always seem to add cheese or chicken.
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[User Picture]From: handstil
2009-06-13 09:16 pm (UTC)
heh, just say " no cheese or chicken on that," and it's instantly vegan. ;)
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[User Picture]From: dreamyshade
2009-06-14 04:44 am (UTC)
cue a zillion indignant stories of waiters and waitresses who don't understand such requests, and restaurants where the menu doesn't mention that the salad is full of bacon, etc.
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[User Picture]From: substitute
2009-06-14 04:55 am (UTC)
DUDE BACON IS AWESOME LOL
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[User Picture]From: mcpino
2009-06-15 03:14 am (UTC)
I made Me & Tara some bacon for breakfast in honor of this post.
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[User Picture]From: handstil
2009-06-14 12:39 pm (UTC)
I've been vegetarian or vegan for 18 years and that has happened to me one time. I can't believe it's possibly the epidemic it is hyped to be! In England I had to say "that means no eggs, too" but that's about it for the confusion of the very "elusive" vegan diet. LOLZ
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[User Picture]From: dreamyshade
2009-06-14 07:43 pm (UTC)
yeah, i don't mean it's an epidemic, just that most vegetarians/vegans i know have a couple of stories about it.

seems to depend on location and kind of restaurant. i've been vegetarian for six or seven years and i live in california, and it's rarely an issue. one time in san francisco at a peruvian restaurant, i ordered the single seemingly-vegetarian item on the menu and it arrived with bits of bacon.

while visiting new orleans, i explained to a waitress that i didn't want lunchmeat on my salad, and then the salad arrived with piles of lunchmeat. i asked for a new one. my friend visiting somewhere in the south asked for no chicken on her salad, and her waitress said something like "ohh it's ok, it'll be on the house for you today". two of my vegetarian friends who visited france ate meat while they were there because being vegetarian was so much of a hassle to explain to servers in the little neighborhood restaurants/cafes they visited. etc etc

i've also had to explain my dietary preferences very carefully to confused aunts/parents of boyfriend and former boyfriends - not asking to be served alternative food, just trying to tell them why i wouldn't eat that lovely piece of fish they made or the good american hamburger. awkward.
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[User Picture]From: handstil
2009-06-14 07:54 pm (UTC)
Re; explaining your dietary preferences:
My husband's mom has been vegan for like 30 years and when they were out to Thai food the waitress said "I've been trying to go vegan for so long, how do you do it?" and my husband's mom goes; "Oh, I just think of the animals, and how they have to die."

HA. I love her.

Honestly, I've had more mistakes like onion on my salad than meat mishaps but I know it happens! I just can't believe your friends would rather eat meat than go buy their own food at a market! There is so much delicious fresh food to be had in france!
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[User Picture]From: substitute
2009-06-14 08:08 pm (UTC)
New Orleans is another planet.

Friend of mine have said that the only way to deal with Peru/New Orleans/Paris is to claim some type of illness and say that "for dietetic reasons" they can't have any animal products. At this point people become very kind and attentive and bring you a celery and the subject is closed.
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[User Picture]From: dreamyshade
2009-06-14 08:21 pm (UTC)
or eat dessert for dinner and haul around a case of clif bars. hehehe
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[User Picture]From: substitute
2009-06-14 02:40 am (UTC)
Right. There's something about the way this usually happens that means moral grandstanding and not enjoyment of food. Enjoyment of food is something of which I strongly approve!
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[User Picture]From: obnoxicant
2009-06-13 02:43 pm (UTC)
yes! also annoying was the fact that my vegan friends always said things like "oh, you wouldn't like this, it's vegan," even if it was something as innocuous as a tofu scramble, as if being an omnivore meant i had to have a cheeseburger for every meal.
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[User Picture]From: pekingspring
2009-06-13 04:04 pm (UTC)
Only if people shut the hell up about bacon.
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From: catamorphism
2009-06-13 05:14 pm (UTC)
+1
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[User Picture]From: firepower
2009-06-13 05:45 pm (UTC)
Yup!
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[User Picture]From: caladri
2009-06-13 06:18 pm (UTC)
+50
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[User Picture]From: substitute
2009-06-14 02:40 am (UTC)

not a fan of internet baconianism

Yeah, for real. Annoying.

Maybe if we could get the bacon cultists to announce periodically stuff like "boy I had a bacon flavored cucumber just now and it was completely DISGUSTING"?
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[User Picture]From: halfjack
2009-06-14 06:15 am (UTC)

Re: not a fan of internet baconianism

Damn that sounds delicious.
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[User Picture]From: handstil
2009-06-14 12:42 pm (UTC)
What is it about bacon? Why is fried pig fat or whatever bacon is, suddenly this overdone hipster calling card? "I LOVE BACON!" Mmmmkay? I don't get it.
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From: catamorphism
2009-06-13 05:15 pm (UTC)
People who do the same thing with "gluten-free" annoy me far more than vegans. At least there are reasons for encouraging others to get interested in veganism. But some people into "gluten-free" seem to not realize that not everyone is allergic to gluten, and if you're not, then there's no reason not to eat tasty, tasty gluten.
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[User Picture]From: caladri
2009-06-13 06:18 pm (UTC)
You've forgotten that some people believe that gluten causes autism, anxiety, etc.
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From: catamorphism
2009-06-13 06:27 pm (UTC)
I was thinking about that, but trying to avoid having to confront the existence of such people by not mentioning it.

Gluten... or chemtrails????
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[User Picture]From: leolo
2009-06-13 07:03 pm (UTC)
bwahahahahWhat? No... [cries]
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[User Picture]From: handstil
2009-06-13 09:18 pm (UTC)
mmmmgluten
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[User Picture]From: handstil
2009-06-14 12:44 pm (UTC)
What kind of vegan food do you use? I have moral dilemmas about feeding my animals other animals but I want to do what is best for their health, obviously. I'd always heard that meat is best for dogs, but if there is a happy alternative I would love to use it!
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[User Picture]From: handstil
2009-06-14 09:46 pm (UTC)
Thank you!
I really believe that the higher quality food will save you money (and heartache. I don't understand feeding animals the cheap crap because there is so much waste; they eat more, use less!

God knows my oldest cat could use a diet that actually works. ha
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[User Picture]From: detcarguy
2009-06-14 10:52 pm (UTC)

just the other day...

LOL...too true!!! Just the other day at work, I chatted to a cute guy I see but don't work directly with, and he found it important to announce that the cupcakes he made for someone coworker's birthday were vegan! To which I replied "But do they have sugar? Because I am diabetic!"
I shall have to remember to announce the next time I bring a roast beef sandwich for lunch too!
The final twist I found out about cute vegan boy, he has a series of elaborate tattoos up one arm, across his back and down the other arm of all the women in the throes of dying from Altred Hitchcock movies. Just struck me as odd for the vegan to be so attracted to gore filled death moments of people?
Does that mean vegans can be cannibals??? Just seems to be the logical conclusion in this case, I'm just asking!
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[User Picture]From: substitute
2009-06-15 01:41 am (UTC)

Re: just the other day...

Once we've started on the subject of poor judgment tattoos, all bets are off.
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[User Picture]From: detcarguy
2009-06-16 02:34 am (UTC)

Re: just the other day...

LOL...while I have become more erotically fasinated with tattoos, those do seem to fall quite resoundingly in the "what were you thinking" catagory?! I wonder how much more bizarre they will look when this 20-something boy is a 70-something old duffer???
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[User Picture]From: substitute
2009-06-16 03:14 am (UTC)

Re: just the other day...

I agree that tattoos can be attractive! But fast-forward 20 years... not so much.
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[User Picture]From: monochromatism
2009-06-16 07:10 pm (UTC)

veering off tangent

Just thought I'd mention that I hate people who say things are "tasty and good," and the only real person I know who does that is the really annoying girl I work with who never fails to state the obvious or phrase things in the most annoying way possible.
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[User Picture]From: kasheri
2009-06-16 07:15 pm (UTC)
P.S. to Vegans

Please stop insisting that I "come to Jesus," throw over my wicked ways, and embrace purity when you learn that I am a lacto-ovo vegetarian. I know that it bugs you that I dance so close to your idea of dietary perfection without fully embracing your ideals, but your attempts to convert me are aggravating in the extreme.
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From: crapsteak
2009-06-22 07:45 am (UTC)
I would pay a lot of money to see a vegan (who's been vegan a while) eat an entire wheel of double gloucester cheese.

I had a friend who didn't eat meat for about 2 years.. and finally he succumbed to one of my famous blue cheese burgers, and his stomach wasn't right for a week. But at least he got the whole vegetarian thing out of his system.
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